Posts by THE GLADIATOR

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"You can't believe anything science says, they're always changing their minds.."

jw
friends

i know this is going to come up in a conversation shortly, how would you respond to this?

i've had it said to me before, specifically about health, one week wine/eggs/milk/axle grease is good for you, next week it's not..

THE GLADIATOR

"You can't believe anything science says, they're always changing their minds.."

So are women but we still believe in them!

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Changed: Head coverings for sisters, w15 2/15 QFR

by wifibandit in

does a female kingdom publisher need to wear a head covering if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher?.

in a questions from readers item published in the watchtower of july 15, 2002, it was stated that a sister should cover her head if she conducts a bible study in the presence of a male publisher, whether he is baptized or not.

further consideration of the matter suggests that a modification to this direction is appropriate.. if the male publisher who accompanies the sister while she conducts an established bible study is baptized, the sister would certainly want to wear a head covering.

THE GLADIATOR

This small extract is taken from: Obey Jehovah God! - by Trevor Willis.

Being baptised had opened up new privileges in the congregation, but caused certain difficulties. The sisters in the congregation did not share the same status as the brothers. They were not allowed to lecture from the platform or make any announcement directly to the audience. When a sister was allowed on the platform, she had to address another sister, while the audience listened in. A brother had to remain on the platform at all times. Sisters could not offer prayer on behalf of the congregation, or even say grace aloud over a meal in the presence of a baptised male. They could offer prayer in the presence of a brother who had not been baptised, but had to cover their heads before they did this. A sister could not be appointed as a congregation servant.

Certain situations were getting complicated. When in small group meetings, Terry was embarrassed to be asked to take over from older sisters. He had for some weeks accompanied a married pioneer sister called Mary, to a Bible study with an interested young lady; that is, a young lady interested in their beliefs. The time spent with her counted towards the required hundred hours a month. The study provided an enjoyable hour away from the elements, in the warm. Terry would open and close with prayer and Mary would conduct the study.

Ron found out about the arrangement and wasted no time in addressing the matter. ‘It’s not right having a sister conduct the study when a baptised male is present.’

‘I don’t see what the problem is. Mary always covers her head while conducting the study and gets me to open and close in prayer. She was taking the study long before I was invited along.’

Terry's father was adamant. ‘If she wants you to be there, then you will have to conduct the study.’

Terry protested. ‘I can’t just take over her study, it wouldn’t be fair. Anyway Mary is older than me and more experienced. As the study is with a young lady, it’s appropriate that she conducts it.’

His father stood up and raised his voice. ‘I am a congregation servant and I decide what is appropriate. If she won’t let you conduct the study then you will have to stop going. In Jehovah’s arrangement, everyone has their place and Mary needs to be reminded of her place in the congregation. You also have to remember that I am head of this family, so you will do as I tell you.’

It was futile for Terry to argue any more with his father. Ron’s mind was made up and once made up, could not be undone. Terry was not prepared to pull rank on Mary, perhaps leading to her simply withdrawing the invitation to accompany her. He simply told her that he would not be attending the study with her any more. He offered no explanation but Mary was insistent. He reluctantly conveyed his father’s reasoning. She was upset and tried to reason, saying that his father was wrong. But she had to accept that Terry had no choice in the matter.

The incident troubled him greatly and added to the resentment that he felt towards authority. Being forced to treat people in a way that he felt was wrong, for reasons that made no sense to him, seemed to be a misuse of authority. It could not go on! That day another brick was knocked from the wall around Terry’s mind that kept him captive.

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Montreal Gazette: 'Homosexuals like you in tight pants,' JW leader says

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://montrealgazette.com/life/turning-the-page-homosexuals-like-you-in-tight-pants-jehovahs-witness-leader-says-reportsturning the page: 'homosexuals like you in tight pants,' jehovah's witness leader says reportsjillian page, montreal gazette more from jillian page, montreal gazette.

published on: november 12, 2014 last updated: november 12, 2014 11:33 pm est.

skin-tight pants are a no-no in public, church leader says,.

THE GLADIATOR

Most attractive sexually active young people like to see potential partners in tight pants or jeans. Men and women who are gay are no different. It has nothing to do with homesexuality. By the way, you can't catch homosexuality either.

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Earth rotates the wrong way. ( no one even knew that )

by kairos in

i've heard it mentioned a few times.. the rotating earth graphic in the background on jwtv rotates backwards.. i've mentioned it to the active and they are not concerned at all.. my response is, "it's something they are portraying that cannot be more wrong".. .

two gb members have stood in front of it telling us to trust them.

how can you when they think the sun rises in the west.... .

THE GLADIATOR

Michael Caine did - not many people know that!

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Armageddon will be here in less than 4 years!

by hoser in

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friends

that's the word according to my mil.

mrs hoser is starting a new career and the college and work training will take her four years to complete.

her mom is giving her a hard time telling her that the system will be over before she graduates.

THE GLADIATOR

Armageddon is already taking place in Iraq - it is the will of Allah. The infidels will perish and paradise will be established in the barren, sandy plains of the warring factions of the oil rich Arabian sands. America will thank Jesus. The Arabs will thank Allah. Atheists will thank god it’s settled and the world will struggle on.

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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

by fulltimestudent in

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friends

got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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THE GLADIATOR

Viviane "No one has been rude to you. Your ignorant and false accusation is rude, however."

Hello again Vivian.

Could you please show me where I said that anyone had been rude to me?

By my standards it was rude of me to tell you to shut up, but as stated I was responding to you in language that you endorse, defend, and approve of.

It was a surprisingly liberating experience, so I must thank you for affording me the opportunity. Perhaps I will do it more often, just to win your approval.

This has been fun.

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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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THE GLADIATOR

Viviane Along with others, I have politely stated my personal opinion about the way the street preacher was treated. Now you attempt to label us as sexist in order to suit your own separate agenda. I see that polite reasoned debate is lost on you. Let me respond to you in language that you endorse, defend, and approve of.

SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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THE GLADIATOR

cognizant dissident You make some good points; my feelings too.

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How does forum moderation work?

by Simon in

we've had a few comments lately that show that people don't seem to fully comprehend the way moderation works or the point of it.. if someone point something that other people don't like or agree with then that is a difference of opinion.

live with it.. if someone posts something that is crude, insulting, contains bad language etc.

then it violates the posting guildelines and can and should be removed.. now, sometimes we won't immediately notice a post that should be removed.

THE GLADIATOR

This is an excellent forum. The rules are very clear and sensible. Moderating takes time. When you deal with the public, in any capacity, there will always be trouble-makers seeking attention.

You can take a horse to water - but it will always stink!

Please keep up the good work Simon.

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Inactive ones are bloodguilty?

by dissonance_resolved in

i've been thinking about brother morris' statement at the zone meeting this past weekend that inactive ones are bloodguilty.

bloodguilt is defined as "guilty of murder or manslaughter.

" murder is #1 on the list of disfellowshipping offenses- all they would have to do is change the wording from "murder" to "bloodguilt" and suddenly there you have grounds to disfellowship anyone who's inactive.

THE GLADIATOR

Ah, now you see, bloodguilt is not the sort of thing that bothers gladiators.